Had my uterine massage today. It was so relaxing. She put castor oil on my lower abdomen and put a hot water bladder over it. She let that settle in while massaging my face, shoulders, scalp (omg love this part), and feet. She then removed the hot water bladder and massaged the oil into my belly. After that she massaged my back and neck. It was amazing! Can't wait for the next appointment!
She had me choose a card from a mother's desk. I got the "mirror" and this is what the book had to say about it. What stood out to me was: "Self-love tells you to stop looking for the answers outside. The key is to rest in knowing that nothing separates you from love. Love is always loving you [yourself]. The beloved that you seek is you all along - you have been knocking from the inside!"
"Just relax and it will happen"....That dreaded piece of advice ALL women going through infertility have heard time and time again. If relaxing made babies, wouldn't we all be pregnant by now?
About Us
- Lauree and Mike
- After an 8 year battle with infertility and countless struggles, our family is finally complete. This blog chronicles the journey it took for us to start and build the family we always wanted. Background on the blog (started in 2012, just days before I found out the embryo transfer for our son worked).... I decided to start a blog after realizing I have only been able to make it through my TWW's (two week waits) with the help of Google and with the openness of other women suffering from infertility sharing their own stories and giving others hope. I have time and time again found my exact symptoms on other women's blogs and felt an overwhelming sense of calmness they provided me. I thought it was time to pay it forward and hopefully provide this same thing to other women on their own journeys.
Saturday, January 30, 2016
Thursday, January 28, 2016
Thaw/Biopsy date set!
Baby steps (no pun intended).... but we finally have our thaw and biopsy date set for our 4 remaining frozen embryos (to have them PGSed). It will be this coming Monday 2/1! The lady mentioned they'd send the cells to Genesis either that day or the next day. Then, give or take a day or two, 7 days later we should know the results.
I'm on cycle day 26 today, so my period should start in 3-5 days.
I am having weekly uterine massages starting tomorrow with Danielle of Momassage. This should help the blood flow to my ol' ute. I had some sessions with her before our transfer last June. Implantation was at least "successful" that attempt, so hopefully it will be with this coming attempt as well!
I am not doing acupuncture this attempt as I did it for over a year between 2014-2015 and we all know how that worked out. :( Plus it was super duper expensive and very time consuming. And, after a month or so of starting it, the sessions really never left me feeling super duper relaxed like they once had. So I'm over that. I will definitely do acupuncture sessions the day of transfer (before and after) but nothing until then.
Think that's about it! I'll update you guys when anything happens!
I'm on cycle day 26 today, so my period should start in 3-5 days.
I am having weekly uterine massages starting tomorrow with Danielle of Momassage. This should help the blood flow to my ol' ute. I had some sessions with her before our transfer last June. Implantation was at least "successful" that attempt, so hopefully it will be with this coming attempt as well!
I am not doing acupuncture this attempt as I did it for over a year between 2014-2015 and we all know how that worked out. :( Plus it was super duper expensive and very time consuming. And, after a month or so of starting it, the sessions really never left me feeling super duper relaxed like they once had. So I'm over that. I will definitely do acupuncture sessions the day of transfer (before and after) but nothing until then.
Think that's about it! I'll update you guys when anything happens!
Sunday, January 24, 2016
Saturday, January 23, 2016
Ramblings
Things I'm thinking about....
Will freezing my embryos - twice - hurt them?
Love this official study that proves the answer is NO! "Although it is unconventional to thaw/warm, biopsy, revitrify and rewarm blastocysts for cryopreserved embryo transfer, the results indicate that outcomes are not compromised."
What can I do to overcome my autoimmune issues for the next transfer?
I read this interesting article about wobenzym N. "Wobenzym N was shown in this study to greatly reduce the incidence of miscarriage in women with immunological response to pregnancy resulting in miscarriage." So I'll do that and add back in baby aspirin. I also got my RE to agree to allow me to use lovenox but she's being dodgy about writing me a script for it. I need to her to get on that since it needs prior auth with my insurance (gag me). I wonder if I can get my endocrinologist to write an Rx for it since most of what I read it's because of my hashimoto's and/or MTHFR that I would need it anyways.
I keep googling to see the percentage of normal embryos for a 33 year old (age I was when they were conceived).
It seems like 60-70% of my embryos are normal. That is 2.4 to 2.8 normal embryos of the 4. Though, the 4 to be tested were my "worst" 4 of the 8 blasts I originally had. I pray at least 2 are normal.
Will freezing my embryos - twice - hurt them?
Love this official study that proves the answer is NO! "Although it is unconventional to thaw/warm, biopsy, revitrify and rewarm blastocysts for cryopreserved embryo transfer, the results indicate that outcomes are not compromised."
What can I do to overcome my autoimmune issues for the next transfer?
I read this interesting article about wobenzym N. "Wobenzym N was shown in this study to greatly reduce the incidence of miscarriage in women with immunological response to pregnancy resulting in miscarriage." So I'll do that and add back in baby aspirin. I also got my RE to agree to allow me to use lovenox but she's being dodgy about writing me a script for it. I need to her to get on that since it needs prior auth with my insurance (gag me). I wonder if I can get my endocrinologist to write an Rx for it since most of what I read it's because of my hashimoto's and/or MTHFR that I would need it anyways.
I keep googling to see the percentage of normal embryos for a 33 year old (age I was when they were conceived).
It seems like 60-70% of my embryos are normal. That is 2.4 to 2.8 normal embryos of the 4. Though, the 4 to be tested were my "worst" 4 of the 8 blasts I originally had. I pray at least 2 are normal.
Friday, January 22, 2016
PGS & FET #6 Plan
So my RE could never get a hold of my insurance nurse case manager to see if she could persuade them to let me do IVF even with frozen embryos.
So the plan is (because I'm not getting any younger):
I also had a hysteroscopy today to see how my uterus fared from the D&C last fall. It went well. The RE did a endometrial scratch while she had the camera up there as well.
My view just before the hysteroscopy:
So the plan is (because I'm not getting any younger):
- Cleveland Clinic will thaw, biopsy, and ship my embryos - roughly 1/27
- Genesis Genetics will receive them and PGS NGS (pre genetic screening with next generation sequencing) them - roughly 1/28
- I'll get my period - roughly 2/1
- PGS results should be in - roughly 2/10
- Lining check - roughly 2/12
- Transfer - roughly 2/20
I also had a hysteroscopy today to see how my uterus fared from the D&C last fall. It went well. The RE did a endometrial scratch while she had the camera up there as well.
My view just before the hysteroscopy:
Sunday, January 17, 2016
Decisions Decisions
Man, more bad news. Dr. Flyckt informed me that we can't do PGS and a transfer close enough that the embryos could avoid another freeze. AKA, our embryos, if we want them tested, will have to be thawed, biopsied, tested, and REFROZEN. Ugh. Luckily, both freezings are done using the vitrification method which barely damages the embryo. But those poor little 100 cell guys (or gals) might not be able to handle being thawed twice over!
Dr. Flyckt was super nice though and she is going to contact my nurse case manager to see if they will wave the restriction in my case for another fresh cycle even with frozens in storage. We'll see what happens. If that's the case, should I do supplements for 90 days beforehand (like I did last time and got my best hall to date)? Will my RE like that if she pushed to let me do IVF just for me to say "hold on, I need time for supplements".
You may be thinking, 'why hasn't she been on supplements just in case this whole time?' Well, first and foremost, they do a number on my body. My face practically falls off (it's truly gross..think snake) from the DHEA. Second, they are $$$$$. I've been on about 1/3 of the supplements this whole time so hopefully my eggs are at least decent? Also, now I sound like a spoiled brat, but IVF is now covered so I could do it more than once should I get a craptastic haul.
I'm so torn. Should we even do IVF if they okay it? Or should we just attempt to use those poor 4 frosties that would need to be frozen again and potentially damage the crap out of them? I'm actually leaning toward just using them and no IVF. But I'll be 35 this year. My eggs are basically 50% crap at this age. So out of every 2 embryos made, 1 will be useless. That number gets exponentially worse with age. See the chart:
Monday, January 11, 2016
Update (kinda)
So I hooked up with my nurse case manager from United Healthcare on Friday. Surprisingly, she was actually an awesome person and very knowledgable. I was super fearful she wouldn't understand my lingo (IVF, PGD, PGS, ICSI, etc), but she understood it all! So good news and bad news. Good news is they will, indeed, pay for an IVF. Double bad news though..... they won't let me do another IVF until the 4 frozens we have are used AND, the more bad of the two, they won't pay to test our embryos to see if they are chromosomally normal (PGS). They will only pay for PGD (the same test but also tests for a genetic disorder) - but Mike and I don't have any genetic disorders that we are trying to prevent from passing down. So no paid testing for us. So, we will pay out of pocket. The transfer itself WILL be covered at least. So I emailed my RE the following and I am still waiting to hear back:
I need your guidance on how to time #2 with #1 and #3. :) Again, I am on cycle day 6 currently if there was any way to do the scratch this luteal cycle and transfer next cycle?
Hi! It's finally 2016! I was able to speak with my 'insurance nurse case manager' and she answered all of my questions. Unfortunately, I cannot do a fresh retrieval until all frozen embryos are used. I want to PGS them using Genesis as well before transfer. Unfortunately, my insurance won't cover PGS. They will only cover PGD if we had a genetic disorder we were trying to prevent from passing down. I don't suppose my scoliosis or anything could be used as a reason for PGD? If not, we are fine with paying for PGS out of pocket. So, next steps:
1. I'd like to still combine a hysteroscopy with a uterine scratch (in the luteal phase) the preceding cycle. I am on cycle day 6 currently.
2. PGS test my 4 frozen embryos. Can we thaw them, test them, and transfer them all in the say 24-36 hours (so we don't have to refreeze them)?
3. Transfer 1 to 2 normal embryos cycle following uterine scratch.
Sunday, January 3, 2016
A New Hope
Okay, so the post title was/is a Star Wars nod.... but it's also how I feel about 2016. This year is our LAST year attempting to TTC. Hopefully. I hope we either end our story with another baby in our arms, or at peace that we never gave Victor a sibling.
A look up until now:
52 Eggs retrieved
32 Mature eggs
25 Fertilized eggs turned embryos
17 Made it to a transferable state
13 Have been transferred so far
7 Embryos transfers
4 Untransferred embryos
A look up until now:
52 Eggs retrieved
32 Mature eggs
25 Fertilized eggs turned embryos
17 Made it to a transferable state
13 Have been transferred so far
7 Embryos transfers
4 Untransferred embryos
4 Pregnancies
3 Miscarriages (including 1 after a heartbeat was detected)
1 Baby - the absolute light of my life.
We made life 25 times and only have 1 baby to show for it. Thank GOD we have him. Don't get me wrong, I'd be nothing without him. He's the light of my life. I just want to give him a sibling so badly. Especially after almost giving him a sister (who would be due in less than 2 months now if she didn't leave us on 8/18/2015 at 9.5 weeks).
I called the insurance company tomorrow to ask my list of questions. I'll find out if I can proceed with an IVF, but more likely than not, they'll make me use the 4 embryos we have left. To recap, we wanted to do another fresh IVF to make new embryos, and PGD those embryos as well as our 4 frozen embryos. But there is an exclussion clause on our insurance that we can't do any egg retrievals until we use all embryos. So, looks like we are going to try and get the insurance company to pay the $5,000 to PGD test our 4 lone embryos. I pray 1 or 2 are normal. I made them when I was 33 so chances are 2 are normal. Maaaaaaaybe 3. My heart would break if it was 1 or 0. Anyways, the questions I'll hopefully get answers to tomorrow are:
1. Are you a senior member of RRS? I have a lengthy history including numerous IVF cycles, and 7 embryo transfers. I need someone who knows their stuff. (Basically, I'm going to be a douche and ask this up front because I don't want to waste my time with someone who doesn't know the difference between IUI, IVF, ICSI, PGD, etc.)
2. What is the deductible we need to hit before we can tap into the 10k-20k family planning limit?
3. Already have been a patient of the Cleveland Clinic for 6+ years, I’d like to stay there. Is Cleveland Clinic a COE? (60 miles?)
4. My RE (reproductive endocrinologist) recommends doing IVF, creating embryos and testing those using PGD. I do, however, currently have 4 UNTESTED frozen embryos. Do those embryos exclude me from being able to do an egg retrieval because of the stated exclusion (even though I paid to get those embryos out of pocket): “Embryo or oocyte accumulation defined as fresh oocyte retrieval prior to the depletion of previously banked frozen embryos or oocytes.”
5. Can my RE submit any documentation to allow me to proceed with IVF?
6. The next plan would be to thaw those 4 embryos and do PGD on only those four. What does my RE need / “what forms are required” to do have PGD covered by insurance?
7. Could the PGD be covered on my husband’s insurance since the embryos are half his? (and not eat into my 20k)?
8. What does my RE need to do, what forms need to be filled out, to have IVF covered under my insurance?
9. I used to use Walgreens Specialty pharmacy for all of my specialty/fertility drugs, UHC no longer covers them in network. Who will fill my fertility drugs now?
3 Miscarriages (including 1 after a heartbeat was detected)
1 Baby - the absolute light of my life.
We made life 25 times and only have 1 baby to show for it. Thank GOD we have him. Don't get me wrong, I'd be nothing without him. He's the light of my life. I just want to give him a sibling so badly. Especially after almost giving him a sister (who would be due in less than 2 months now if she didn't leave us on 8/18/2015 at 9.5 weeks).
I called the insurance company tomorrow to ask my list of questions. I'll find out if I can proceed with an IVF, but more likely than not, they'll make me use the 4 embryos we have left. To recap, we wanted to do another fresh IVF to make new embryos, and PGD those embryos as well as our 4 frozen embryos. But there is an exclussion clause on our insurance that we can't do any egg retrievals until we use all embryos. So, looks like we are going to try and get the insurance company to pay the $5,000 to PGD test our 4 lone embryos. I pray 1 or 2 are normal. I made them when I was 33 so chances are 2 are normal. Maaaaaaaybe 3. My heart would break if it was 1 or 0. Anyways, the questions I'll hopefully get answers to tomorrow are:
1. Are you a senior member of RRS? I have a lengthy history including numerous IVF cycles, and 7 embryo transfers. I need someone who knows their stuff. (Basically, I'm going to be a douche and ask this up front because I don't want to waste my time with someone who doesn't know the difference between IUI, IVF, ICSI, PGD, etc.)
2. What is the deductible we need to hit before we can tap into the 10k-20k family planning limit?
3. Already have been a patient of the Cleveland Clinic for 6+ years, I’d like to stay there. Is Cleveland Clinic a COE? (60 miles?)
4. My RE (reproductive endocrinologist) recommends doing IVF, creating embryos and testing those using PGD. I do, however, currently have 4 UNTESTED frozen embryos. Do those embryos exclude me from being able to do an egg retrieval because of the stated exclusion (even though I paid to get those embryos out of pocket): “Embryo or oocyte accumulation defined as fresh oocyte retrieval prior to the depletion of previously banked frozen embryos or oocytes.”
5. Can my RE submit any documentation to allow me to proceed with IVF?
6. The next plan would be to thaw those 4 embryos and do PGD on only those four. What does my RE need / “what forms are required” to do have PGD covered by insurance?
7. Could the PGD be covered on my husband’s insurance since the embryos are half his? (and not eat into my 20k)?
8. What does my RE need to do, what forms need to be filled out, to have IVF covered under my insurance?
9. I used to use Walgreens Specialty pharmacy for all of my specialty/fertility drugs, UHC no longer covers them in network. Who will fill my fertility drugs now?
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