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After an 8 year battle with infertility and countless struggles, our family is finally complete. This blog chronicles the journey it took for us to start and build the family we always wanted. Background on the blog (started in 2012, just days before I found out the embryo transfer for our son worked).... I decided to start a blog after realizing I have only been able to make it through my TWW's (two week waits) with the help of Google and with the openness of other women suffering from infertility sharing their own stories and giving others hope. I have time and time again found my exact symptoms on other women's blogs and felt an overwhelming sense of calmness they provided me. I thought it was time to pay it forward and hopefully provide this same thing to other women on their own journeys.

Sunday, January 17, 2016

Decisions Decisions

Man, more bad news.   Dr. Flyckt informed me that we can't do PGS and a transfer close enough that the embryos could avoid another freeze. AKA, our embryos, if we want them tested, will have to be thawed, biopsied, tested, and REFROZEN.   Ugh.  Luckily, both freezings are done using the vitrification method which barely damages the embryo.  But those poor little 100 cell guys (or gals) might not be able to handle being thawed twice over!   

Dr. Flyckt was super nice though and she is going to contact my nurse case manager to see if they will wave the restriction in my case for another fresh cycle even with frozens in storage.  We'll see what happens.  If that's the case, should I do supplements for 90 days beforehand (like I did last time and got my best hall to date)?   Will my RE like that if she pushed to let me do IVF just for me to say "hold on, I need time for supplements".   

You may be thinking, 'why hasn't she been on supplements just in case this whole time?'  Well, first and foremost, they do a number on my body.  My face practically falls off (it's truly gross..think snake) from the DHEA.   Second, they are $$$$$.  I've been on about 1/3 of the supplements this whole time so hopefully my eggs are at least decent?   Also, now I sound like a spoiled brat, but IVF is now covered so I could do it more than once should I get a craptastic haul.   

I'm so torn.  Should we even do IVF if they okay it?  Or should we just attempt to use those poor 4 frosties that would need to be frozen again and potentially damage the crap out of them?   I'm actually leaning toward just using them and no IVF.  But I'll be 35 this year.  My eggs are basically 50% crap at this age.  So out of every 2 embryos made, 1 will be useless.  That number gets exponentially worse with age.  See the chart:


7 comments:

  1. Just use the frozen, cross your fingers and then see what happens. You have a fallback option if things don't turn out how you want. And, your eggs aren't 50% crap- they just are a little older (in 35 too and like to stay positive). Good luck!

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    1. Negativity is my downfall! I often wonder if I would have been more successful had I been more optimistic! I will try and be more optimistic, I promise!

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  2. I agree. I think you should just transfer your frosties. Or if your clinic lets you do anther cycle, even better, then you can do PGS on fresh embryos. We did PGS on our remaining frozen embryos and they had to be re- vertrified. I had chemicals with all of them. From my experience, I think the refreeze does damage them even though they thawed out fine. Best of luck whatever you decide! Hugs!

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    1. I think you ladies are right. I will call tomorrow and ask her to just plan for the PGS and FET. We can worry about and IVF later! I also doubt my insurance would have budged anyways!

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  3. I forgot to mention that 50% of eggs are abnormal with an egg retrieval, regardless of age. Our egg donor is only 25 and I had 2 miscarriages with embryos from her eggs. After doing PGS, one of 3 frosties was abnormal. However, I also miscarried the 3 PGS normal ones too.

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  4. These decisions are so hard! Pray about it and then follow your prayerful intuition. Go to St Pat's and pray (God probably isn't against IVF even if some in the Catholic Church who like to judge are). Or say the rosary, very meditative and centering. Whatever decision you make after prayer and reflection and listening to God/your heart/intuition...you just can't regret those decisions so much later if you believe God was leading you to make them. Oh and if your doctor doesn't endorse the three month prep maybe don't do it? Sounds tough, even more difficult than the stim drugs themselves which I hated though I had the highest doses. Good luck!

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  5. With only 4, I don't think I would risk thawing, biopsying and refreezing. I would just transfer 2 at a time.

    I would also do a fresh IVF first if your insurance agrees. You are hitting that 35 mark, so might as well get those last good eggs while you have the chance.

    It's really hard to know what to do, but whatever you choose, it will be the right decision for you. You know your circumstances better than anyone, so you will ultimately make the right decision based on that.

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